Just in time for Christmas, a care package arrived in the mailbox all the way from across the pond. The gift was due to the generosity of others, willing to pass on these little treasures to a good home. Thanks to all those who helped facilitate the gift of the figures to our group of collectors, and the donation to the Military Charity for Limbless Veterans in the UK. Y'all know who you are and I just want to express my gratitude.
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| These pieces are identical except for the wheels. This angle really accentuates how anemic the standard carriage wheels look in this context. I have some 25mm scale wheels that I can use to replace them, which is my current plan. While it is hard to tell from this photo, I had mounted the two rear wheels on the outside of the carriage, but realized my mistake when I received the painted piece on the left. The back carriage wheels were designed to go on the inside of the carriage, which I was able to confirm from and illustration in the book on British Artillery by James Gooding. |
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| All this talk of artillery had me looking at some other pieces I have that I planned to refurbish. I believe these are Hinchliffe French 4 pdrs from the 25mm range, but would love it if some grognard could confirm. I hope to trim the back of the carriage just a tad so it doesn't flair, and replace with smaller wheels (I may repurpose those on the British Howitzer above). I think doing so would make it a reasonably sized 4 pdr for the Hinton Hunt collection. Does anyone know if the barrel shape would be typical of a 4pd Gribeauval system barrel? It is quite different from the longer thinner barrel below. |
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| Here is a 20mm equipment French Howitzer, 4 or 6 pdr from the 20mm equipment line, and the 25mm scale 4 pdr from the photo above. Edit - Just realized the French Howitzer on the left was also packed with the wrong wheels. If you look closely at the pattern of the iron rims, the bolts are in the British stye. The hub caps are also British in style, but hard to tell from this picture. Someone must have been having a bad day! |
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| The canon on the left is a 4 or 6 pdr 20mm Hinchliffe equipment line French canon, but according to the manufacturers list, they didn't make one. Does anyone know if the 20mm French equipment was provided with an alternative barrel to approximate the smaller ordinance? |
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| Here is an overhead shot where the reduced size of the barrel is more clearly visible in comparison to the 8 pdr on the right. The Hinchliffe barrels are very distinctive since they are not cast with a trunnion, so I have little doubt that both of these are original Hinchliffe 20mm scale barrels. |
| Note the absence of a French 4 or 6 pdr. |
Lastly, I have discovered a wonderfully fun new game called Never Mind the Billhooks, thanks to a fellow wargamer. It was nice to try a new period and gaming system, so now I am busily looking into whether or not my miniatures for the battle of Grunwald would be a good fit, despite the slightly earlier time period. Yet another costly delay on the way to Mesas de Ibor...
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| Beautiful troops and terrain all courtesy of my friend |











Merry Christmas Eve and may the merriment extend throughout the festive season.
ReplyDeleteI believe the “20/“ prefix on codes does as you say represent 20mm products. As for Gribeauval 4/8/12 pounders, the big give-away for the 4pdr is the absence of a second set of trunnion ‘sockets’ set further back for long distance carriage. Otherwise the carriages are pretty similar. Finally, I had what I believe was a genuine, an in-the-bag 10” British howitzer and that definitely had the thicker wheels. I have bought unopened packs before that appear to have been opened and resealed. The signs you look for are misaligned staple holes or fresh looking stables in holes that have some rust staining around them.
I hope someone can come up with more authoritative information.
To you as well Rob!
DeletePS the photo of the 10” howitzer in the Hinchliffe catalogue definitely has the sturdier wheels.
ReplyDeleteAh Perfect. I will feel no guilt replacing the wheels now. As for the 4/6pdr Hinchliffe canon, I think it is just a smaller barrel on the same 8 pdr carriage.
DeleteNow that’s what I call a Christmas present - enjoy!
ReplyDeleteI was so excited that these came in the mail just as I have some time off to enjoy them!
DeleteWhat a superb parcel to receive full of goodies, very nice indeed. Interesting read about the Hinchliffe guns,fascinating stuff.
ReplyDeleteThanks Donnie. That smaller Hinchliffe barrel is still a mystery!
DeleteLight infantry carabiniers! I can't wait to see them. Merry Christmas David!
ReplyDeleteThey are turning out very cool, but of course at the rate I paint...
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